> Hi, I have another question:
>
> What happens for different languages of the same server software running on
> the same machine; for example the french and the english version Windows
> Server™ 2003 when these two versions are running both as guests and also for
> the case when one will be the host and the other will run as a guest?
>

> Today we have announced new licensing plans for our server software
> which is much more virtualization friendly. I quick summary of the
> changes is as follows:
>

> Today we have announced new licensing plans for our server software which
> is much more virtualization friendly. I quick summary of the changes is
> as follows:
>
> 1) New virtualization use rights for Windows Server™ 2003 R2 Enterprise
> Edition and Windows Server “Longhorn” Datacenter Edition enable
> cost-effective consolidation. Licenses for the upcoming Windows Server
> 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition will allow customers to run up to four virtual
> instances on one physical server at no additional cost. Licenses for the
> Datacenter Edition of the version of Windows Server, code-named
> “Longhorn,” will give customers the right to run an unlimited number of
> virtual instances on one physical server.
>
> 2) Licensing by running instance improves the value and flexibility of
> Windows Server System products. Customers will no longer license every
> inactive or stored instance of a Windows Server System product. Customers
> can now create and store unlimited numbers of instances, including those
> for backup and recovery, and pay only for the maximum number of running
> instances at any given time.
>
> 3) Portable licensing for the dynamic enterprise allows customers to
> easily deploy and run Windows Server System products on any physical
> server licensed for the software. Customers can move active instances from
> one licensed server box to another without limitation, as long as the
> physical server is licensed for the Windows Server System product.
>
> 4) Per-processor licensing better aligns with resources used. With
> Windows Server System products that are licensed per processor, such as
> Microsoft SQL Server™, BizTalk® Server, and Internet Security &
> Acceleration Server, customers will have greater flexibility to stack
> multiple instances on a machine by licensing for the number of virtual
> processors being used.
>
> For more details checkout:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/oct05/10-10virtualizationlicensing.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/oct05/10-10VirtualizationStrategyPR.mspx
>
> You should note that these changes only apply to our server software.
> Licensing for desktop software remains unchanged at the moment.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Benjamin Armstrong
> ===============================
> Virtual machine Program Manager
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> You assume all risk for your use.

> Hi,
>
> This is great and a very good new!
>
> However, I have a question about the exact meaning of « server
> software »: does this apply to Windows Server (2003, Longhorn, etc.) versus
> WinXP or to Virtual Server versus Virtual PC?
>
> More explicitely, is it OK to have multiple instances of Windows Server
> Longhorn running under Virtual PC 2004 or to have multiple instances of
> WinXP running under Virtual Server 2005?
>
> And finally, what's about VMWare products?

> In article <#eD$(email address - cut out)>, in the
> microsoft.public.virtualserver news group, <"Sylvain Lafontaine"
> <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>> says...
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is great and a very good new!
>>
>> However, I have a question about the exact meaning of « server
>> software »: does this apply to Windows Server (2003, Longhorn, etc.)
>> versus
>> WinXP or to Virtual Server versus Virtual PC?
>>
>> More explicitely, is it OK to have multiple instances of Windows
>> Server
>> Longhorn running under Virtual PC 2004 or to have multiple instances of
>> WinXP running under Virtual Server 2005?
>
> From Ben's original post:
>
> "You should note that these changes only apply to our server software.
> Licensing for desktop software remains unchanged at the moment."
>
> Server software in this case, as is clear in the press announcements
> refers to Windows Server System software. The licensing changes only
> affect Windows Server System Software, not desktop software like XP.
>
>>
>> And finally, what's about VMWare products?
>
> The licensing changes affect the Windows Server System software being
> used, regardless of the virtualization software they are running under.
>
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
> http://www.identit.ca/blogs/paul/
> "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and sarcasm, has
> survived for centuries without smileys. Only the new crop of modern
> computer geeks finds it impossible to detect a joke that is not clearly
> labeled as such."
> Ray Shea

>> And finally, what's about VMWare products?
>
>The licensing changes affect the Windows Server System software being
>used, regardless of the virtualization software they are running under.

> Today we have announced new licensing plans for our server software which
> is much more virtualization friendly. I quick summary of the changes is
> as follows:
>
> 1) New virtualization use rights for Windows Server™ 2003 R2 Enterprise
> Edition and Windows Server “Longhorn” Datacenter Edition enable
> cost-effective consolidation. Licenses for the upcoming Windows Server
> 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition will allow customers to run up to four virtual
> instances on one physical server at no additional cost. Licenses for the
> Datacenter Edition of the version of Windows Server, code-named
> “Longhorn,” will give customers the right to run an unlimited number of
> virtual instances on one physical server.
>
> 2) Licensing by running instance improves the value and flexibility of
> Windows Server System products. Customers will no longer license every
> inactive or stored instance of a Windows Server System product. Customers
> can now create and store unlimited numbers of instances, including those
> for backup and recovery, and pay only for the maximum number of running
> instances at any given time.
>
> 3) Portable licensing for the dynamic enterprise allows customers to
> easily deploy and run Windows Server System products on any physical
> server licensed for the software. Customers can move active instances from
> one licensed server box to another without limitation, as long as the
> physical server is licensed for the Windows Server System product.
>
> 4) Per-processor licensing better aligns with resources used. With
> Windows Server System products that are licensed per processor, such as
> Microsoft SQL Server™, BizTalk® Server, and Internet Security &
> Acceleration Server, customers will have greater flexibility to stack
> multiple instances on a machine by licensing for the number of virtual
> processors being used.
>
> For more details checkout:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/oct05/10-10virtualizationlicensing.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/oct05/10-10VirtualizationStrategyPR.mspx
>
> You should note that these changes only apply to our server software.
> Licensing for desktop software remains unchanged at the moment.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Benjamin Armstrong
> ===============================
> Virtual machine Program Manager
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> You assume all risk for your use.

> In message <(email address - cut out)> Paul Adare
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >> And finally, what's about VMWare products?
> >
> >The licensing changes affect the Windows Server System software being
> >used, regardless of the virtualization software they are running under.
>
> Unless it's Virtual PC? How about the workstation version of VMWare
> being used in a server environment?

> Thank your for the information. After reading your post and the news
> releases, I'm afraid that I'm still a bit confused about the possible
> combinations of server OS allowed for Host and virtual machines.
>
> This is particually relevant for us, since I'm currently planning next
> year's configuration. VMs are a part of that plan. We currently have
> only Win2003 SE, not EE.
>
> My reading is that the Win2003 EE is the only near-shipping product to
> which the new licensing applies. Specially, that would mean that unless I
> own at least one copy of Win2003 EE R2 to use as my host, there are no
> licensing changes.
>
> Clearly, if I do have Win2003 EE R2, then I can use it as the host, and
> have four more instances running as VMs on that host.
>
> Questions:
> 1) If I use Win2003 EE R2 as the host, can I run other server OSs on the
> VMs without additional licencing. For example, I have three licenced
> copies of Win2003SE. If I purchase Win2003 EE R2, can I run an additional
> 4 copies of Win2003SE as VMs under that new host?
>
> 2) Am I correct that only Win2003 EE R2 will have this licensing change?
> Will Win2003 SE R2 licensing be changing as well?
>
> Barry
>