Sent: 05/12/2009
From: Court
Message:Thank you for that reply. Is it possible to get a link to those discussions
regarding running a DC in this environment? I'm going to need some backup
resources when it's time to make a recommendation.
"Bill Grant" wrote:
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>
> "Court" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > We are looking into running SBS 2008 in a virtualization environment. Is
> > it
> > true that SBS 2008 does not come with Hyper-V and therefore either Hyper-V
> > Server or 2008 server need to be purchased and installed as the Primary
> > partition?
> >
> > If SBS 2008 domain controller is installed on a child partition can
> > virtual
> > file be exported and imported on a different Hyper-V server with different
> > hardware? This would be for disaster recovery purposes.
> >
> > thank you,
>
> Whether SBS 2008 supports Hyper-V or not is really irrelevant here. If
> you were thinking of running SBS in a virtual environment you would not
> install SBS on the host computer, even if it was possible. Once you install
> Hyper-V, the host (which is now the OS running in the primary partition)
> should run no other role, just Hyper-V. It certainly should not be a DC.
>
> There has been a fair bit of discussion about the merits of running
> your principal/only DC in a vm. There are valid arguments against it, but
> lots of people do it. A DC is special, and not really like other servers. If
> a file server goes down, you can restore it to different hardware (including
> a vm) and off you go. This is not really true of a DC.
>
>
>
>
Sent: 05/12/2009
From: "Charlie Russel - MVP" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:SBS 2008 is supported in a Hyper-V environment as a child partition. If you
use SBS Premium, you can use the second server as both a child and the
parent for both servers.
Discussions around SBS 2008 are covered in a public connect newsgroup.
Directions here:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2008/11/02/signing-up-for-the-sbs-2008-newsgroups.aspx
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"Court" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> We are looking into running SBS 2008 in a virtualization environment. Is
> it
> true that SBS 2008 does not come with Hyper-V and therefore either Hyper-V
> Server or 2008 server need to be purchased and installed as the Primary
> partition?
>
> If SBS 2008 domain controller is installed on a child partition can
> virtual
> file be exported and imported on a different Hyper-V server with different
> hardware? This would be for disaster recovery purposes.
>
> thank you,
Sent: 05/12/2009
From: "Charlie Russel - MVP" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:BTW, current recommendation for SBS 2008 is to not have the Parent partition
be domain joined. The team actually listened and changed the EULA to fully
support that, even when using the bundled second server (Premium only) as
the parent (using 1+1 licensing.)
Since SBS is generally a single DC network, and even when there are multiple
DCs, the SBS server itself must ALWAYS hold all FSMO roles, the usual
concerns about virtualizing a DC don't really apply. It's also almost never
shut down except to patch.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
>
>
> "Court" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> We are looking into running SBS 2008 in a virtualization environment. Is
>> it
>> true that SBS 2008 does not come with Hyper-V and therefore either
>> Hyper-V
>> Server or 2008 server need to be purchased and installed as the Primary
>> partition?
>>
>> If SBS 2008 domain controller is installed on a child partition can
>> virtual
>> file be exported and imported on a different Hyper-V server with
>> different
>> hardware? This would be for disaster recovery purposes.
>>
>> thank you,
>
> Whether SBS 2008 supports Hyper-V or not is really irrelevant here. If
> you were thinking of running SBS in a virtual environment you would not
> install SBS on the host computer, even if it was possible. Once you
> install Hyper-V, the host (which is now the OS running in the primary
> partition) should run no other role, just Hyper-V. It certainly should not
> be a DC.
>
> There has been a fair bit of discussion about the merits of running
> your principal/only DC in a vm. There are valid arguments against it, but
> lots of people do it. A DC is special, and not really like other servers.
> If a file server goes down, you can restore it to different hardware
> (including a vm) and off you go. This is not really true of a DC.
>
>
>
Sent: 05/13/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"Court" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Whether SBS 2008 supports Hyper-V or not is really irrelevant here. If
you were thinking of running SBS in a virtual environment you would not
install SBS on the host computer, even if it was possible. Once you install
Hyper-V, the host (which is now the OS running in the primary partition)
should run no other role, just Hyper-V. It certainly should not be a DC.
There has been a fair bit of discussion about the merits of running
your principal/only DC in a vm. There are valid arguments against it, but
lots of people do it. A DC is special, and not really like other servers. If
a file server goes down, you can restore it to different hardware (including
a vm) and off you go. This is not really true of a DC.
Show quoted text
> We are looking into running SBS 2008 in a virtualization environment. Is
> it
> true that SBS 2008 does not come with Hyper-V and therefore either Hyper-V
> Server or 2008 server need to be purchased and installed as the Primary
> partition?
>
> If SBS 2008 domain controller is installed on a child partition can
> virtual
> file be exported and imported on a different Hyper-V server with different
> hardware? This would be for disaster recovery purposes.
>
> thank you,
Sent: 05/13/2009
From: Court
Message:Thanks again for the reply. With your help I found the MS docs supporting
that and thier recommendations on what to consider.
"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
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> SBS 2008 is supported in a Hyper-V environment as a child partition. If you
> use SBS Premium, you can use the second server as both a child and the
> parent for both servers.
>
> Discussions around SBS 2008 are covered in a public connect newsgroup.
> Directions here:
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2008/11/02/signing-up-for-the-sbs-2008-newsgroups.aspx
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "Court" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > We are looking into running SBS 2008 in a virtualization environment. Is
> > it
> > true that SBS 2008 does not come with Hyper-V and therefore either Hyper-V
> > Server or 2008 server need to be purchased and installed as the Primary
> > partition?
> >
> > If SBS 2008 domain controller is installed on a child partition can
> > virtual
> > file be exported and imported on a different Hyper-V server with different
> > hardware? This would be for disaster recovery purposes.
> >
> > thank you,
>
>
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