Sent: 03/31/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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Exactly the same way you would install the same OS on a physical machine -
there is no difference.
Older versions of Windows CDs were not bootable - that is why they came with
a boot floppy.
If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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> How do you create a virtual machine with a setup disk? (Not bootable) Such
> as Windows 95 or WindowsME cd's. I can't get a non bootable cd to install
> the OS.
Sent: 03/31/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
My laptop does not have a floppy drive.
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> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>> How do you create a virtual machine with a setup disk? (Not bootable)
>> Such as Windows 95 or WindowsME cd's. I can't get a non bootable cd to
>> install the OS.
>
> Exactly the same way you would install the same OS on a physical machine
> - there is no difference.
>
> Older versions of Windows CDs were not bootable - that is why they came
> with a boot floppy.
>
> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
>
Sent: 03/31/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
That works great. Setup runs and I can install Windows 98 but on the
first reboot after installation it will not boot. I did it twice but
nothing. All you do is keep getting the same original virtual boot strap
and you can't start Windows from C:\windows\setup.exe. It fails.
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> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>> How do you create a virtual machine with a setup disk? (Not bootable)
>> Such as Windows 95 or WindowsME cd's. I can't get a non bootable cd to
>> install the OS.
>
> Exactly the same way you would install the same OS on a physical machine
> - there is no difference.
>
> Older versions of Windows CDs were not bootable - that is why they came
> with a boot floppy.
>
> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
>
Sent: 03/31/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
You are right again. How stupid of me.
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> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>> That works great. Setup runs and I can install Windows 98 but on the
>> first reboot after installation it will not boot. I did it twice but
>> nothing. All you do is keep getting the same original virtual boot
>> strap and you can't start Windows from C:\windows\setup.exe. It fails.
>
> A virtual machine is *EXACTLY* the same as a physical machine as far as
> software (OS and apps) is concerned - there is no difference...
>
> You need the boot floppy in order to begin the installation process of
> Windows 98. Why? Because the Windows 98 CD isn't bootable
>
> But, on the first reboot *AFTER* installation, you have to remove the
> boot floppy otherwise the virtual machine will keep on booting from it.
>
> Just like a physical machine...
>
> This isn't a Virtual PC question per se...
>
>
Sent: 03/31/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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All the more reason to download a virtual boot floppy from
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
> My laptop does not have a floppy drive.
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
A virtual machine is *EXACTLY* the same as a physical machine as far as
software (OS and apps) is concerned - there is no difference...
You need the boot floppy in order to begin the installation process of
Windows 98. Why? Because the Windows 98 CD isn't bootable
But, on the first reboot *AFTER* installation, you have to remove the boot
floppy otherwise the virtual machine will keep on booting from it.
Just like a physical machine...
This isn't a Virtual PC question per se...
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ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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> That works great. Setup runs and I can install Windows 98 but on the first
> reboot after installation it will not boot. I did it twice but nothing.
> All you do is keep getting the same original virtual boot strap and you
> can't start Windows from C:\windows\setup.exe. It fails.
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
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> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>> How do you create a virtual machine with a setup disk? (Not bootable)
>> Such as Windows 95 or WindowsME cd's. I can't get a non bootable cd to
>> install the OS.
>
> Exactly the same way you would install the same OS on a physical machine
> - there is no difference.
>
> Older versions of Windows CDs were not bootable - that is why they came
> with a boot floppy.
>
> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
>
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:07:05 -0400, Van Chocstraw
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
yes. it is a generic Windows 98 flooppy image.
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http://vpc.essjae.com/
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>Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>> How do you create a virtual machine with a setup disk? (Not bootable)
>>> Such as Windows 95 or WindowsME cd's. I can't get a non bootable cd to
>>> install the OS.
>>
>> Exactly the same way you would install the same OS on a physical machine
>> - there is no difference.
>>
>> Older versions of Windows CDs were not bootable - that is why they came
>> with a boot floppy.
>>
>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>
>>
>Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:53:48 -0400, Van Chocstraw
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
What kind of error? Win98 is pretty straight forward. Have you
verified you're getting an IP?
Did you follow the instructions for installing Win98 on my website?
Connecting to the Internet
Note: The following assumes the network the VM is in is a LAN type
environment that includes DNS and DHCP servers.
51. Double-click the Connect to the Internet icon on the desktop.
52. Internet Connection Wizard (ICW): Select I want to set up my
Internet connection manually…, and click Next.
53. ICW: Select I connect through a LAN and click Next.
54. ICW: Local area network Internet configuration: Click Next to
accept the default, unless the environment requires the manual
configuration of proxy.
55. ICW: Set Up Your Internet Mail Account: Click No, then click Next
to continue.
56. ICW: Click Finish to complete the wizard
http://vpc.essjae.com/VPC2007TR.pdf
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Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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>Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download
>>>> one:
>>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>>
>>> Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
>>
>> Did it work when you tried it?
>>
>> What did they tell in the VMWare / VirtualBox newsgroups / forums...?
>>
>>
>
>I got Windows 98 install on Microsoft VirtualPC but it won't recognize
>the network. I did the lan setup thing several times.
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
I got Windows 98 install on Microsoft VirtualPC but it won't recognize
the network. I did the lan setup thing several times.
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> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download
>>> one:
>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>
>> Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
>
> Did it work when you tried it?
>
> What did they tell in the VMWare / VirtualBox newsgroups / forums...?
>
>
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:50:17 -0400, Van Chocstraw
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
What is your network setting for the VM: shared, host's NIC, etc?
When you run winipcfg, do you get correct TCP/IP info?
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>Steve Jain [MVP] wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:53:48 -0400, Van Chocstraw
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>>>> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download
>>>>>> one:
>>>>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>>>> Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
>>>> Did it work when you tried it?
>>>>
>>>> What did they tell in the VMWare / VirtualBox newsgroups / forums...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I got Windows 98 install on Microsoft VirtualPC but it won't recognize
>>> the network. I did the lan setup thing several times.
>>
>> What kind of error? Win98 is pretty straight forward. Have you
>> verified you're getting an IP?
>> Did you follow the instructions for installing Win98 on my website?
>>
>> Connecting to the Internet
>> Note: The following assumes the network the VM is in is a LAN type
>> environment that includes DNS and DHCP servers.
>> 51. Double-click the Connect to the Internet icon on the desktop.
>> 52. Internet Connection Wizard (ICW): Select I want to set up my
>> Internet connection manually…, and click Next.
>> 53. ICW: Select I connect through a LAN and click Next.
>> 54. ICW: Local area network Internet configuration: Click Next to
>> accept the default, unless the environment requires the manual
>> configuration of proxy.
>> 55. ICW: Set Up Your Internet Mail Account: Click No, then click Next
>> to continue.
>> 56. ICW: Click Finish to complete the wizard
>>
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/VPC2007TR.pdf
>>
>No errors. There is just no network. In network neighborhood, nothing.
>There IS a network adapter.
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Did it work when you tried it?
What did they tell in the VMWare / VirtualBox newsgroups / forums...?
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ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download one:
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
> Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Steve Jain [MVP] wrote:
I told you I did that several times.
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> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:53:48 -0400, Van Chocstraw
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>> Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>>> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>>>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download
>>>>> one:
>>>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>>> Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
>>> Did it work when you tried it?
>>>
>>> What did they tell in the VMWare / VirtualBox newsgroups / forums...?
>>>
>>>
>> I got Windows 98 install on Microsoft VirtualPC but it won't recognize
>> the network. I did the lan setup thing several times.
>
> What kind of error? Win98 is pretty straight forward. Have you
> verified you're getting an IP?
> Did you follow the instructions for installing Win98 on my website?
>
> Connecting to the Internet
> Note: The following assumes the network the VM is in is a LAN type
> environment that includes DNS and DHCP servers.
> 51. Double-click the Connect to the Internet icon on the desktop.
> 52. Internet Connection Wizard (ICW): Select I want to set up my
> Internet connection manually…, and click Next.
> 53. ICW: Select I connect through a LAN and click Next.
> 54. ICW: Local area network Internet configuration: Click Next to
> accept the default, unless the environment requires the manual
> configuration of proxy.
> 55. ICW: Set Up Your Internet Mail Account: Click No, then click Next
> to continue.
> 56. ICW: Click Finish to complete the wizard
>
> http://vpc.essjae.com/VPC2007TR.pdf
>
Sent: 04/01/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Steve Jain [MVP] wrote:
No errors. There is just no network. In network neighborhood, nothing.
There IS a network adapter.
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> On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:53:48 -0400, Van Chocstraw
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>> Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>>> "Van Chocstraw" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>>>> If you don't have a boot floppy, you'll need to make one or download
>>>>> one:
>>>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>>> Will this virtual boot floppy work on VMware and Virtualbox?
>>> Did it work when you tried it?
>>>
>>> What did they tell in the VMWare / VirtualBox newsgroups / forums...?
>>>
>>>
>> I got Windows 98 install on Microsoft VirtualPC but it won't recognize
>> the network. I did the lan setup thing several times.
>
> What kind of error? Win98 is pretty straight forward. Have you
> verified you're getting an IP?
> Did you follow the instructions for installing Win98 on my website?
>
> Connecting to the Internet
> Note: The following assumes the network the VM is in is a LAN type
> environment that includes DNS and DHCP servers.
> 51. Double-click the Connect to the Internet icon on the desktop.
> 52. Internet Connection Wizard (ICW): Select I want to set up my
> Internet connection manually…, and click Next.
> 53. ICW: Select I connect through a LAN and click Next.
> 54. ICW: Local area network Internet configuration: Click Next to
> accept the default, unless the environment requires the manual
> configuration of proxy.
> 55. ICW: Set Up Your Internet Mail Account: Click No, then click Next
> to continue.
> 56. ICW: Click Finish to complete the wizard
>
> http://vpc.essjae.com/VPC2007TR.pdf
>