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mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 02/05/2009
From: nebulachapin
Message:

Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my
XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem
is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is
in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it
seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure
it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?

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Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/06/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a
remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work
because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all
other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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>Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
>running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my
>XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem
>is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is
>in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it
>seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure
>it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/06/2009
From: Poutnik <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

In article <(email address - cut out)>,
(email address - cut out) says...

Is machine visible for host OS ?

I bet it is matter of proper network setting of guest,
but I am not familiar with it.
Supposing you know you should not use NAT.

does have running netbios services and opened ports ?
incoming UDP 137 + 138, TCP 139
maybe also 135, not sure.

try install simple http server, if able to reach it,
e.g my favorite abyss by Aprelium.

--
Poutnik

Show quoted text

>
> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my
> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem
> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is
> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it
> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure
> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/06/2009
From: nebulachapin
Message:

I am not sure I understood you correctly. If I am simply reiterating what
you said, then
my apologies, but the I am not up on the proper vernacular and lingo.

I have VPN running on my virtual pc and have mapped network drives there
that show
up under "network drives". But I want to be able to see those or map then to
my
real computer (host I presume). It seems to me that you should be able to do
this,
but are you saying that somehow VPN is not allowing for me to map them?

Cheers
Paul

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

Show quoted text

> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
> >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my
> >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem
> >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is
> >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it
> >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure
> >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?
>
> Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a
> remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work
> because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all
> other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/06/2009
From: nebulachapin
Message:

Thanks Bo.

Yes you have completely understood my situation. I am using Cisco. This is
not terrible news, but it is disappointing. VPN doesnt run on xp64 as you
probably
know, so the VPC was helpful in that regard. But I need to manipulate a large
number of files using software installed on the xp64 machine. Copying files
back and forth is not productive...so I'll have to install the software
suite again
on the virtual machine, which is a pain plus I only have a license to
install the
software on two machines, so I'd be wasting both installations on one
machine...

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

Show quoted text

> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:58:12 -0800, nebulachapin
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
> >
> >"Bo Berglund" wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin
> >> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
> >> >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my
> >> >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem
> >> >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is
> >> >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it
> >> >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure
> >> >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?
> >>
> >> Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a
> >> remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work
> >> because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all
> >> other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up.
> >>
>
> >
> >I am not sure I understood you correctly. If I am simply reiterating what
> >you said, then
> >my apologies, but the I am not up on the proper vernacular and lingo.
> >
> >I have VPN running on my virtual pc and have mapped network drives there
> >that show
> >up under "network drives". But I want to be able to see those or map then to
> >my
> >real computer (host I presume). It seems to me that you should be able to do
> >this,
> >but are you saying that somehow VPN is not allowing for me to map them?
> >
> >Cheers
> >Paul
>
> As I understand you the situation is like this:
> - You have a virtual machine running WinXP
> - This XP guest has VPN software running (Cisco or AT&T or what?)
> - With VPN software a connection has been made to a remote server
> - While the VPN tunnel is up you see shares on the remote server
> which are mapped to drive letters on the guest
> - Now you want to re-share these mapped shares as new shares so they
> will be available also on the host?
>
> This will not work, in fact even if there was no VPN involved Windows
> would not allow you to first map a drive letter to a server share and
> then share that drive letter out for a third PC to map a drive letter
> on its own against it.
>
> But with a VPN tunnel active you will probably see that the entire PC
> where the tunnel is active is isolated from the local network
> neighborhood so you cannot even see shares on other PC:s in the same
> local network until you close the tunnel.
> This behaviour might depend on the particular VPN software you use,
> but I know for a fact that the Cisco VPN works this way because I have
> been a Cisco user for many years. Whenever my laptop hooks up the VPN
> tunnel it disappears from the local network. All connections I might
> have established to other local PC:s via the LAN completely
> disappear...
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/06/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:58:12 -0800, nebulachapin
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

As I understand you the situation is like this:
- You have a virtual machine running WinXP
- This XP guest has VPN software running (Cisco or AT&T or what?)
- With VPN software a connection has been made to a remote server
- While the VPN tunnel is up you see shares on the remote server
which are mapped to drive letters on the guest
- Now you want to re-share these mapped shares as new shares so they
will be available also on the host?

This will not work, in fact even if there was no VPN involved Windows
would not allow you to first map a drive letter to a server share and
then share that drive letter out for a third PC to map a drive letter
on its own against it.

But with a VPN tunnel active you will probably see that the entire PC
where the tunnel is active is isolated from the local network
neighborhood so you cannot even see shares on other PC:s in the same
local network until you close the tunnel.
This behaviour might depend on the particular VPN software you use,
but I know for a fact that the Cisco VPN works this way because I have
been a Cisco user for many years. Whenever my laptop hooks up the VPN
tunnel it disappears from the local network. All connections I might
have established to other local PC:s via the LAN completely
disappear...

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Show quoted text

>
>"Bo Berglund" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>> >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
>> >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my
>> >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem
>> >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is
>> >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it
>> >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure
>> >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?
>>
>> Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a
>> remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work
>> because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all
>> other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up.
>>
>
>I am not sure I understood you correctly. If I am simply reiterating what
>you said, then
>my apologies, but the I am not up on the proper vernacular and lingo.
>
>I have VPN running on my virtual pc and have mapped network drives there
>that show
>up under "network drives". But I want to be able to see those or map then to
>my
>real computer (host I presume). It seems to me that you should be able to do
>this,
>but are you saying that somehow VPN is not allowing for me to map them?
>
>Cheers
>Paul

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/07/2009
From: Poutnik <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

In article <(email address - cut out)>,
(email address - cut out) says...

I use Vista64 Home Premium SP1 as host, running VPC2007 SP1.
I run Win2000 as guest,
with AT&T VPN client (v6.9, 32b only) to connect to my job.

I have set a bunch of mapped network drives on guest:

remote systems from job, seamlessly accessible through VPN
and
shared folder(s) from host, set as R/W in VM config
( VM has to be running when set this.)

If I need documents from a job accessible in host,
I simply copy it ( within guest OS )
from remote network folder to host network folder.

Then it is placed in host disk
and both host and guest have access to it.

--
Poutnik

Show quoted text

>
> Thanks Bo.
>
> Yes you have completely understood my situation. I am using Cisco. This is
> not terrible news, but it is disappointing. VPN doesnt run on xp64 as you
> probably
> know, so the VPC was helpful in that regard. But I need to manipulate a large
> number of files using software installed on the xp64 machine. Copying files
> back and forth is not productive...so I'll have to install the software
> suite again
> on the virtual machine, which is a pain plus I only have a license to
> install the
> software on two machines, so I'd be wasting both installations on one
> machine...
>

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/07/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:34:58 +1100, "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
wrote:

Note that the OP wants to use his guest to establish a VPN tunnel
(using Cisco VPN) to the remote server. Then he wants to map remote
server shares to drive letters in the guest (this is possible).
Then he wants to share these drive letters (or folders within) in the
guest in such a way that they will be accessible from the *host*.
Finally he wants to use software on the host to work with the files on
the remote server using this double mapping scheme.

AFIK this double sharing is not even possible if there was no VPN
involved, but with Cisco VPN the guest will be totally disconnected
from the local network as long as the tunnel to the remote server is
active (to protect the remote server from illegal accesses, I
believe).

So the bottom line is that the VPN system will disable all networking
from the guest except the tunnel itself and so he will have no access
to the guest from the host.

Other VPN software may work differently in regard to the network
isolation, for example Microsoft PPTP tunneling does not do this. But
still the double sharing is not possible, I believe.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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>
>
>"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>news:eKr$(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>
>> "Poutnik" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.23f5fc4f7c5a72db98973c@127.0.0.1...
>>> In article <(email address - cut out)>,
>>> (email address - cut out) says...
>>>>
>>>> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
>>>> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:"
>>>> in my
>>>> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system.
>>>> Problem
>>>> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if
>>>> there is
>>>> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc.,
>>>> it
>>>> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't
>>>> figure
>>>> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Did file sharing between the guest machine and the host work before
>> you installed the VPN client (or did you not try it then)?
>
> Have you tried sharing folders rather than drives?

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/07/2009
From: Poutnik <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

In article <(email address - cut out)>,
(email address - cut out) says...
.......

I see, I missed it. So do I think double sharing is not possible.

I suppose VPC shared folders bypass common Windows networking.

--
Poutnik

Show quoted text

>
> Finally he wants to use software on the host to work with the files on
> the remote server using this double mapping scheme.
>
> AFIK this double sharing is not even possible if there was no VPN
> involved, but with Cisco VPN the guest will be totally disconnected
> from the local network as long as the tunnel to the remote server is
> active (to protect the remote server from illegal accesses, I
> believe).

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/07/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:37:43 +0100, Poutnik
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

I think that it possibly does too, but the shared folders by VPC
design is a feature to share a *host* folder over to the guest and not
the other direction. In this case it would not help the OP except if
he was willing to first (in the guest) copy the files from the remote
server into the shared folder and then operate on them in the host and
then finally in the guest copy them back.
But he said that there was a large number of files involved so he did
not fancy this copy-modify-copy process.
Installing the processing software in the guest will solve the problem
but costs another s/w license....

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Show quoted text

>In article <(email address - cut out)>,
>(email address - cut out) says...
>>
>......
>> Finally he wants to use software on the host to work with the files on
>> the remote server using this double mapping scheme.
>>
>> AFIK this double sharing is not even possible if there was no VPN
>> involved, but with Cisco VPN the guest will be totally disconnected
>> from the local network as long as the tunnel to the remote server is
>> active (to protect the remote server from illegal accesses, I
>> believe).
>
>I see, I missed it. So do I think double sharing is not possible.
>
>I suppose VPC shared folders bypass common Windows networking.

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/07/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:

"Poutnik" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:MPG.23f5fc4f7c5a72db98973c@127.0.0.1...

Did file sharing between the guest machine and the host work before you
installed the VPN client (or did you not try it then)?

Show quoted text

> In article <(email address - cut out)>,
> (email address - cut out) says...
>>
>> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
>> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:"
>> in my
>> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system.
>> Problem
>> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there
>> is
>> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc.,
>> it
>> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't
>> figure
>> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?
>

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/07/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:eKr$(email address - cut out)...

Have you tried sharing folders rather than drives?

Show quoted text

>
>
> "Poutnik" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:MPG.23f5fc4f7c5a72db98973c@127.0.0.1...
>> In article <(email address - cut out)>,
>> (email address - cut out) says...
>>>
>>> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07
>>> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:"
>>> in my
>>> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system.
>>> Problem
>>> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if
>>> there is
>>> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc.,
>>> it
>>> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't
>>> figure
>>> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it?
>>
>
>
> Did file sharing between the guest machine and the host work before
> you installed the VPN client (or did you not try it then)?

Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop

Sent: 02/09/2009
From: nebulachapin
Message:

Yes, the sheer number of files involved makes the copying back and forth
unattractive. Of course
copying files back and forth is not an issue.

In any case, I was told there may not be a licensing issue with the VM
afterall.

Thanks all for their knowledgeable input.

-p

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

Show quoted text

> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:37:43 +0100, Poutnik
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >In article <(email address - cut out)>,
> >(email address - cut out) says...
> >>
> >......
> >> Finally he wants to use software on the host to work with the files on
> >> the remote server using this double mapping scheme.
> >>
> >> AFIK this double sharing is not even possible if there was no VPN
> >> involved, but with Cisco VPN the guest will be totally disconnected
> >> from the local network as long as the tunnel to the remote server is
> >> active (to protect the remote server from illegal accesses, I
> >> believe).
> >
> >I see, I missed it. So do I think double sharing is not possible.
> >
> >I suppose VPC shared folders bypass common Windows networking.
>
> I think that it possibly does too, but the shared folders by VPC
> design is a feature to share a *host* folder over to the guest and not
> the other direction. In this case it would not help the OP except if
> he was willing to first (in the guest) copy the files from the remote
> server into the shared folder and then operate on them in the host and
> then finally in the guest copy them back.
> But he said that there was a large number of files involved so he did
> not fancy this copy-modify-copy process.
> Installing the processing software in the guest will solve the problem
> but costs another s/w license....
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>

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