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Using VM for Training Exercise

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 11/10/2008
From: Ed
Message:

Hi folks,

I want to save a Virtual Machine
settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.
And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

Thanks in advance...
--
Ed

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Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/10/2008
From: Ed
Message:

Thank you Rae.

My Virtual Machine, I named Sharepointbox. Creating the
Virtual Machine, created a folder named sharepointbox with the contents:

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\eband.MARO\My Documents\My Virtual
Machines\SHAREPOINTBOX

11/10/2008 01:31 PM <DIR> .
11/10/2008 01:31 PM <DIR> ..
11/06/2008 05:15 PM 5,277,986,304 SHAREPOINTBOX Hard Disk.vhd
11/10/2008 09:42 AM 12,788 SHAREPOINTBOX.vmc
11/10/2008 01:28 PM 270,796,288
VirtualPCUndo_SHAREPOINTBOX_0_0_0_14405211102008.vud

Do I need to back up all 3 files ( .vhd, .vmc, .vud).

And restore by overwriting all 3?

--
Ed

"Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:

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> "Ed" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>
> > I want to save a Virtual Machine set up with Sharepoint, before I start a
> > Sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the
> > original
> > Sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just copy the VM's file to
> > another
> > spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.
>
> Yes.
>
> > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>
> The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). Select the VM in the console and
> click the Settings button to find out their location...
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
>
>

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/10/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
drive (.vhd)

You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
will put it back to what it was before.

--
Bob Comer

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <(email address - cut out)am> wrote:

Show quoted text

>Hi folks,
>
>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.
>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>
>Thanks in advance...

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/10/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Ed" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Yes.

The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). Select the VM in the console and
click the Settings button to find out their location...

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

Show quoted text

> I want to save a Virtual Machine set up with Sharepoint, before I start a
> Sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the
> original
> Sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just copy the VM's file to
> another
> spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.
> And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/10/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Ed" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

You're welcome, Bill...

As previously advised by Bob and me, you need to back up the virtual hard
disk (.vhd) file(s).

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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>> > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>
>> The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s).
>
> Thank you Rae.
> Do I need to back up all 3 files ( .vhd, .vmc, .vud).

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/10/2008
From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
Message:

I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
clicking on X (terminating the window).
The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
correctly).
I had that already a few times recently.
Jack

"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>
> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
> drive (.vhd)
>
> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
> will put it back to what it was before.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <(email address - cut out)am> wrote:
>
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>later.
>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>
>>Thanks in advance...

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/10/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.

--
Bob Comer

Show quoted text

>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
>clicking on X (terminating the window).
>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
>correctly).
>I had that already a few times recently.
>Jack
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>
>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
>> drive (.vhd)
>>
>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
>> will put it back to what it was before.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <(email address - cut out)am> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi folks,
>>>
>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>>later.
>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance...
>

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/11/2008
From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
Message:

Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
It looks to me noone in this group does.
My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
Jack

"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
>>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
>>clicking on X (terminating the window).
>>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
>>correctly).
>>I had that already a few times recently.
>>Jack
>>
>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>
>>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
>>> drive (.vhd)
>>>
>>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
>>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
>>> will put it back to what it was before.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <(email address - cut out)am> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>>>later.
>>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance...
>>

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/11/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>Are you switching between users? My guess is not.

VERY rarely, but I always either shut down the VM's OS, or do a save
state.

But I'm not so sure this isn't expected behavior, click the x to close
the window in VPC is just like puling the plug on your PC, it doesn't
shut down properly in that case, especially if there is more than one
user logged on, so it's going to boot up just like you describe.

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:25:31 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:

Show quoted text

>Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
>It looks to me noone in this group does.
>My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
>Jack
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>>>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
>>>clicking on X (terminating the window).
>>>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
>>>correctly).
>>>I had that already a few times recently.
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
>>>> drive (.vhd)
>>>>
>>>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
>>>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
>>>> will put it back to what it was before.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <(email address - cut out)am> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>>>>later.
>>>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance...
>>>
>

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/12/2008
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:#(email address - cut out)...

I agree with Bob that the best idea would be to use undo disks. If you
want to start from a "clean" state you could discard changes after a
session.

You really need to shut down between sessions, not just close the vm
window.

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Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/23/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:56:53 +0530, "Satya Ramachandran"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

But it is much quicker to use undo disks cause there is no need to
recreate the guest afterwards. However, there is the risk that the
changes are unintentionally committed, which breaks the whole
picture....
So one idea could be:
- Make a good installation in a guest with everything for the base.
- Create a differencing disk from this base
- Make the base VHD file readonly
- Create a guest using the differencing disk
- Activate undo disks

Now the basic system uses undo disks and if by chance you commit
changes thus destroying the system, you can easily create another
differencing disk based on the original readonly VHD and start over.
So it is a combination of both techniques.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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>
>>> Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
>>> It looks to me noone in this group does.
>>> My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
>>> Jack
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Bob that the best idea would be to use undo disks. If you
>> want to start from a "clean" state you could discard changes after a
>> session.
>>
>> You really need to shut down between sessions, not just close the vm
>> window.
>Why don't we consider differencing disks?
>Your parent disks stay untouched and you can play around with your child
>disks. Once done just discard the child disks and create a fresh set.
>Just make sure you mark your parents disks read only.

Re: Using VM for Training Exercise

Sent: 11/23/2008
From: "Satya Ramachandran" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Why don't we consider differencing disks?
Your parent disks stay untouched and you can play around with your child
disks. Once done just discard the child disks and create a fresh set.
Just make sure you mark your parents disks read only.

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:et3#(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

>
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:#(email address - cut out)...
>> Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
>> It looks to me noone in this group does.
>> My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
>> Jack
>>
>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>
> I agree with Bob that the best idea would be to use undo disks. If you
> want to start from a "clean" state you could discard changes after a
> session.
>
> You really need to shut down between sessions, not just close the vm
> window.
>
>

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