Sent: 10/27/2008
From: msp.ohara
Message:I am able to boot in safe mode but I'm having the same problem. I'm able to
see XP in the thumbnail but not on the main screen. I have on occasion been
able to view full screen but even then the screen is distorted, half of the
windows missing etc...
"Bo Berglund" wrote:
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> >"Bo Berglund" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:18:05 -0700, msp.ohara
> >> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I'm trying to run XP on virtual pc in Microsoft Vista. It's installed fine
> >> >but when I try to load it all I get is a black screen. Anyone else
> >> >experienced this and if so what would you recommend?
> >>
> >> What you see is the start screen of a *completely blank* PC.
> >> You need to install an operating system on the virtual machine.
> >> The Wizard did *not* do it for you, it only put together a suitable
> >> hardware configuration for your PC when you told it you wanted to run
> >> XP.
> >>
> >> You need an XP install CD with an *unused* license to continue.
> >>
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:53:02 -0700, msp.ohara
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >Hi!
> >
> >Thanks for this advice but I have installed XP with an unused license. When
> >I click start in the Virtual PC I can see XP loading in the little preview
> >screen but the main screen is black!
> >
>
> All right, I did not understand that part, I thought that you (like so
> many other newbies) installed VPC2007 fine and then considered the
> Wizard as being the *installer* for the guest operating system....
>
> Now I see what you mean and can just say that I have seen this myself
> some times.....
> The thumbnail shows the expected screen contents as a miniature but
> the VPC guest window is black. Very irritating!
> I don't remember what I did but possibly a host system reboot might
> help. Otherwise a Video graphics driver update on the *host* might
> also solve the problem.
> Sorry that I can't be more specific, but it was a while since I had
> this problem myself.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>
Sent: 10/27/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"msp.ohara" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
That sounds like your host's video driver. Can you update it?
I get that black screen in VPC. Never have gotten that with VMWare
Workstation 5.5. But I have XP and Linux machines on VMWare. I have Vista
Ultimate on VPC so I thought maybe that black screen was something to do
with Vista (never used Vista before). If I use right alt and enter keys on
the keyboard that usually gives me the login screen for Vista full screen
mode but not always. Sometimes the Escape button will fix it. I do not have
the latest video drivers for my nVidia card and will never go beyond the
current driver because I want to use the classic nVidia control panel and
the driver I use is the last that niVidia issued which allows us to use the
classic panel instead of the new awful one. So, for me if the problem is my
video card driver then I just have to live with the problem .
I can eventually get full screen though and you can't do that right or you
get but it is messed up? Do you have it set to always start in full screen
mode? What resizing option are you using? Maybe that is the problem.>
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>I am able to boot in safe mode but I'm having the same problem. I'm able
>to
> see XP in the thumbnail but not on the main screen. I have on occasion
> been
> able to view full screen but even then the screen is distorted, half of
> the
> windows missing etc...
> "Bo Berglund" wrote:
>
>> >"Bo Berglund" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:18:05 -0700, msp.ohara
>> >> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I'm trying to run XP on virtual pc in Microsoft Vista. It's installed
>> >> >fine
>> >> >but when I try to load it all I get is a black screen. Anyone else
>> >> >experienced this and if so what would you recommend?
>> >>
>> >> What you see is the start screen of a *completely blank* PC.
>> >> You need to install an operating system on the virtual machine.
>> >> The Wizard did *not* do it for you, it only put together a suitable
>> >> hardware configuration for your PC when you told it you wanted to run
>> >> XP.
>> >>
>> >> You need an XP install CD with an *unused* license to continue.
>> >>
>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:53:02 -0700, msp.ohara
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>> >
>> >Thanks for this advice but I have installed XP with an unused license.
>> >When
>> >I click start in the Virtual PC I can see XP loading in the little
>> >preview
>> >screen but the main screen is black!
>> >
>>
>> All right, I did not understand that part, I thought that you (like so
>> many other newbies) installed VPC2007 fine and then considered the
>> Wizard as being the *installer* for the guest operating system....
>>
>> Now I see what you mean and can just say that I have seen this myself
>> some times.....
>> The thumbnail shows the expected screen contents as a miniature but
>> the VPC guest window is black. Very irritating!
>> I don't remember what I did but possibly a host system reboot might
>> help. Otherwise a Video graphics driver update on the *host* might
>> also solve the problem.
>> Sorry that I can't be more specific, but it was a while since I had
>> this problem myself.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>>
Sent: 10/27/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:>"Bo Berglund" wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:53:02 -0700, msp.ohara
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
All right, I did not understand that part, I thought that you (like so
many other newbies) installed VPC2007 fine and then considered the
Wizard as being the *installer* for the guest operating system....
Now I see what you mean and can just say that I have seen this myself
some times.....
The thumbnail shows the expected screen contents as a miniature but
the VPC guest window is black. Very irritating!
I don't remember what I did but possibly a host system reboot might
help. Otherwise a Video graphics driver update on the *host* might
also solve the problem.
Sorry that I can't be more specific, but it was a while since I had
this problem myself.
--
Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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>
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:18:05 -0700, msp.ohara
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm trying to run XP on virtual pc in Microsoft Vista. It's installed fine
>> >but when I try to load it all I get is a black screen. Anyone else
>> >experienced this and if so what would you recommend?
>>
>> What you see is the start screen of a *completely blank* PC.
>> You need to install an operating system on the virtual machine.
>> The Wizard did *not* do it for you, it only put together a suitable
>> hardware configuration for your PC when you told it you wanted to run
>> XP.
>>
>> You need an XP install CD with an *unused* license to continue.
>>
>Hi!
>
>Thanks for this advice but I have installed XP with an unused license. When
>I click start in the Virtual PC I can see XP loading in the little preview
>screen but the main screen is black!
>
Sent: 10/28/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:00:55 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:
Every time I want to use full screen on a VPC2007 guest (XP or higher)
I *always* use RDP (Remote DesktoP) to the guest! I start the guest in
a small window, then minimize the VPC guest window and start RDP
instead.
I have set RDP to use full screen.
This gives me a guest connection that actually uses the full screen of
my laptop (1200x1920), which would otherwise not be possible since the
VPC2007 console cannot go to higher resolutions than about 1600 wide.
Another advantage is the RDP way to switch to the host from the
control bar that appears on top when the mouse is moved up. And the
mouse is passed over much better, all features of the mouse is
available in the guest session. You can also configure RDP to bring
your host printer over to the guest seamlessly no matter how it is
connected.
Check it out for yourself!
--
Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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>
>"msp.ohara" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>I am able to boot in safe mode but I'm having the same problem. I'm able
>>to
>> see XP in the thumbnail but not on the main screen. I have on occasion
>> been
>> able to view full screen but even then the screen is distorted, half of
>> the
>> windows missing etc...
>
>That sounds like your host's video driver. Can you update it?
>
>I get that black screen in VPC. Never have gotten that with VMWare
>Workstation 5.5. But I have XP and Linux machines on VMWare. I have Vista
>Ultimate on VPC so I thought maybe that black screen was something to do
>with Vista (never used Vista before). If I use right alt and enter keys on
>the keyboard that usually gives me the login screen for Vista full screen
>mode but not always. Sometimes the Escape button will fix it. I do not have
>the latest video drivers for my nVidia card and will never go beyond the
>current driver because I want to use the classic nVidia control panel and
>the driver I use is the last that niVidia issued which allows us to use the
>classic panel instead of the new awful one. So, for me if the problem is my
>video card driver then I just have to live with the problem .
>
>I can eventually get full screen though and you can't do that right or you
>get but it is messed up? Do you have it set to always start in full screen
>mode? What resizing option are you using? Maybe that is the problem.>
Sent: 10/28/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Bo Berglund" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Hmmm....I might try that! I did not know about limitations on screen width
in VPC. I have a 5 year old Dell Ultra Sharp flat panel digital LCD 19" so I
don't have to contend with wide screen problems. When I buy another monitor
though it will likely be wide screen since I don't see anthing else for
sale. I don't want wide screen because I don't want to watch movies on it.
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> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:00:55 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"msp.ohara" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>I am able to boot in safe mode but I'm having the same problem. I'm able
>>>to
>>> see XP in the thumbnail but not on the main screen. I have on occasion
>>> been
>>> able to view full screen but even then the screen is distorted, half of
>>> the
>>> windows missing etc...
>>
>>That sounds like your host's video driver. Can you update it?
>>
>>I get that black screen in VPC. Never have gotten that with VMWare
>>Workstation 5.5. But I have XP and Linux machines on VMWare. I have Vista
>>Ultimate on VPC so I thought maybe that black screen was something to do
>>with Vista (never used Vista before). If I use right alt and enter keys
>>on
>>the keyboard that usually gives me the login screen for Vista full screen
>>mode but not always. Sometimes the Escape button will fix it. I do not
>>have
>>the latest video drivers for my nVidia card and will never go beyond the
>>current driver because I want to use the classic nVidia control panel and
>>the driver I use is the last that niVidia issued which allows us to use
>>the
>>classic panel instead of the new awful one. So, for me if the problem is
>>my
>>video card driver then I just have to live with the problem .
>>
>>I can eventually get full screen though and you can't do that right or you
>>get but it is messed up? Do you have it set to always start in full screen
>>mode? What resizing option are you using? Maybe that is the problem.>
>
> Every time I want to use full screen on a VPC2007 guest (XP or higher)
> I *always* use RDP (Remote DesktoP) to the guest! I start the guest in
> a small window, then minimize the VPC guest window and start RDP
> instead.
> I have set RDP to use full screen.
> This gives me a guest connection that actually uses the full screen of
> my laptop (1200x1920), which would otherwise not be possible since the
> VPC2007 console cannot go to higher resolutions than about 1600 wide.
> Another advantage is the RDP way to switch to the host from the
> control bar that appears on top when the mouse is moved up. And the
> mouse is passed over much better, all features of the mouse is
> available in the guest session. You can also configure RDP to bring
> your host printer over to the guest seamlessly no matter how it is
> connected.
>
> Check it out for yourself!
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
Sent: 10/28/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Bo Berglund" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Yes, I can see that would be nice. But I would rather just get another 19"
one. My video card does dual monitors. But I don't think I can find any 19"
that are faster than this old one at 26ms response time as opposed to 22"
widescreen from Dell at 2ms response time but has the ultra glossy coating.
For that matter, it is not easy now to find a great LCD monitor that has
anti-reflective coating. I don't understand the sudden craze for that awful
shiny stuff that reflects everything. You can't buy them in a store now (at
least not here in Hawaii). You have buy the monitor from like a business OEM
site as all the consumer LCDs now are ultra glossy. Why, I have no idea. It
is a good thing I don't want a laptop as they all now have that awful super
glossy coating on the monitor.
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> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:48 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
> wrote:
>>Hmmm....I might try that! I did not know about limitations on screen width
>>in VPC. I have a 5 year old Dell Ultra Sharp flat panel digital LCD 19" so
>>I
>>don't have to contend with wide screen problems. When I buy another
>>monitor
>>though it will likely be wide screen since I don't see anthing else for
>>sale. I don't want wide screen because I don't want to watch movies on it.
>
> It is also nice to be able to have more windows open side by side, so
> a wide (and high res) screen is not only for video. I never watch
> video on my PC anyway. ;-)
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
Sent: 10/29/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:48 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:
It is also nice to be able to have more windows open side by side, so
a wide (and high res) screen is not only for video. I never watch
video on my PC anyway. ;-)
--
Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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>Hmmm....I might try that! I did not know about limitations on screen width
>in VPC. I have a 5 year old Dell Ultra Sharp flat panel digital LCD 19" so I
>don't have to contend with wide screen problems. When I buy another monitor
>though it will likely be wide screen since I don't see anthing else for
>sale. I don't want wide screen because I don't want to watch movies on it.
Sent: 10/29/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
"Bo Berglund" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
HP has a very interesting touch screen (22" widescreen) computer with
everything built into the screen except keyboard and mouse which you hardly
need since everything can be done by touch. I was playing with it in Office
Max here a couple of weeks ago. There was horrible reflection on the screen
from the overhead flourescent lighting and I could see myself in the screen
also. It was almost like looking in a mirror.
The sales clerk said she hated that glossy look also and pointed out that
the LCD screens for their business have anti-reflective coating. She said
everyone should go to HP website and ask them why they are making that neat
computer only with the glossy coating. She said that evidently consumers
like the glossy look because their photos look better. That doesn't make
much sense to me. I think my photos look great on my LCD with
anti-reflective coating.
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> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:20:09 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bo Berglund" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:48 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
>>> wrote:
>>>>Hmmm....I might try that! I did not know about limitations on screen
>>>>width
>>>>in VPC. I have a 5 year old Dell Ultra Sharp flat panel digital LCD 19"
>>>>so
>>>>I
>>>>don't have to contend with wide screen problems. When I buy another
>>>>monitor
>>>>though it will likely be wide screen since I don't see anthing else for
>>>>sale. I don't want wide screen because I don't want to watch movies on
>>>>it.
>>>
>>> It is also nice to be able to have more windows open side by side, so
>>> a wide (and high res) screen is not only for video. I never watch
>>> video on my PC anyway. ;-)
>>
>>Yes, I can see that would be nice. But I would rather just get another 19"
>>one. My video card does dual monitors. But I don't think I can find any
>>19"
>>that are faster than this old one at 26ms response time as opposed to 22"
>>widescreen from Dell at 2ms response time but has the ultra glossy
>>coating.
>>For that matter, it is not easy now to find a great LCD monitor that has
>>anti-reflective coating. I don't understand the sudden craze for that
>>awful
>>shiny stuff that reflects everything. You can't buy them in a store now
>>(at
>>least not here in Hawaii). You have buy the monitor from like a business
>>OEM
>>site as all the consumer LCDs now are ultra glossy. Why, I have no idea.
>>It
>>is a good thing I don't want a laptop as they all now have that awful
>>super
>>glossy coating on the monitor.
>>>
>
> Gosh! I have not shopped for laptops or screens for a while so I
> haven't noticed....
> I think those that invented the glossy screen should be sacked and
> sent down to the coal mines as punishment! It is plain awful ergonomy
> to have reflective surfaces to look at all day!
> I couldn't agree more with you!
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
Sent: 10/29/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:20:09 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:
Gosh! I have not shopped for laptops or screens for a while so I
haven't noticed....
I think those that invented the glossy screen should be sacked and
sent down to the coal mines as punishment! It is plain awful ergonomy
to have reflective surfaces to look at all day!
I couldn't agree more with you!
--
Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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>
>"Bo Berglund" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:48 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
>> wrote:
>>>Hmmm....I might try that! I did not know about limitations on screen width
>>>in VPC. I have a 5 year old Dell Ultra Sharp flat panel digital LCD 19" so
>>>I
>>>don't have to contend with wide screen problems. When I buy another
>>>monitor
>>>though it will likely be wide screen since I don't see anthing else for
>>>sale. I don't want wide screen because I don't want to watch movies on it.
>>
>> It is also nice to be able to have more windows open side by side, so
>> a wide (and high res) screen is not only for video. I never watch
>> video on my PC anyway. ;-)
>
>Yes, I can see that would be nice. But I would rather just get another 19"
>one. My video card does dual monitors. But I don't think I can find any 19"
>that are faster than this old one at 26ms response time as opposed to 22"
>widescreen from Dell at 2ms response time but has the ultra glossy coating.
>For that matter, it is not easy now to find a great LCD monitor that has
>anti-reflective coating. I don't understand the sudden craze for that awful
>shiny stuff that reflects everything. You can't buy them in a store now (at
>least not here in Hawaii). You have buy the monitor from like a business OEM
>site as all the consumer LCDs now are ultra glossy. Why, I have no idea. It
>is a good thing I don't want a laptop as they all now have that awful super
>glossy coating on the monitor.
>>
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