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OEM XP Install Problems

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 09/22/2008
From: "John" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

I have a Thinkpad T60 running Vista Business as the host. I also have the
OEM T60 factory CDs for XP. I have setup the VIC and run the install from
the CDs (called Rescue and Recovery) choosing reinstall to original factory
specifications. Once the install has finished and I restart the VIC I get a
BSOD or the boot process keeps restarting. Any thoughts on what may be
happening appreciated.

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Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/22/2008
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:00:23 -0400, "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

VIC?

You can't install an OEM version of Windows in a VM. It's a violation
of the license agreement, the VM is not the "hardware" its licensed
for. Also, most OEM versions of Windows are crippled to prevent them
from being installed on anything but the correct hardware...this is
likely the situation you're facing.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

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>I have a Thinkpad T60 running Vista Business as the host. I also have the
>OEM T60 factory CDs for XP. I have setup the VIC and run the install from
>the CDs (called Rescue and Recovery) choosing reinstall to original factory
>specifications. Once the install has finished and I restart the VIC I get a
>BSOD or the boot process keeps restarting. Any thoughts on what may be
>happening appreciated.
>

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/22/2008
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:49:06 -0400, "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

The hardware in a VM is completely different than the host's hardware.
The only thing that remains the same in the VM is the CPU, everything
else will be different from the host.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

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>Thanks for the reply. The hardware is the hardware for that OEM XP set...
>the T60 comes with either XP or Vista. Since I have a license for both Vista
>and XP, there should not be a license problem. I guess even though the VPC
>is running on the correct hardware, the OEM XP may see the hardware
>'through' the VPC differently.

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/22/2008
From: "John" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Thanks for the reply. The hardware is the hardware for that OEM XP set...
the T60 comes with either XP or Vista. Since I have a license for both Vista
and XP, there should not be a license problem. I guess even though the VPC
is running on the correct hardware, the OEM XP may see the hardware
'through' the VPC differently.

"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:00:23 -0400, "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>I have a Thinkpad T60 running Vista Business as the host. I also have the
>>OEM T60 factory CDs for XP. I have setup the VIC and run the install from
>>the CDs (called Rescue and Recovery) choosing reinstall to original
>>factory
>>specifications. Once the install has finished and I restart the VIC I get
>>a
>>BSOD or the boot process keeps restarting. Any thoughts on what may be
>>happening appreciated.
>>
>
> VIC?
>
> You can't install an OEM version of Windows in a VM. It's a violation
> of the license agreement, the VM is not the "hardware" its licensed
> for. Also, most OEM versions of Windows are crippled to prevent them
> from being installed on anything but the correct hardware...this is
> likely the situation you're facing.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/22/2008
From: "David B." <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

The XP license that shipped with your IBM is for use on the IBM only, if you
are setting up a VM on the IBM that is not the same thing as installing the
OS on the IBM. The VM is a separate machine, it needs it's own OS license,
OEM provided recovery media are for use only on the machine they came with,
not in VM's.

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"John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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> Thanks for the reply. The hardware is the hardware for that OEM XP set...
> the T60 comes with either XP or Vista. Since I have a license for both
> Vista and XP, there should not be a license problem. I guess even though
> the VPC is running on the correct hardware, the OEM XP may see the
> hardware 'through' the VPC differently.
>
> "Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:00:23 -0400, "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Thinkpad T60 running Vista Business as the host. I also have the
>>>OEM T60 factory CDs for XP. I have setup the VIC and run the install from
>>>the CDs (called Rescue and Recovery) choosing reinstall to original
>>>factory
>>>specifications. Once the install has finished and I restart the VIC I get
>>>a
>>>BSOD or the boot process keeps restarting. Any thoughts on what may be
>>>happening appreciated.
>>>
>>
>> VIC?
>>
>> You can't install an OEM version of Windows in a VM. It's a violation
>> of the license agreement, the VM is not the "hardware" its licensed
>> for. Also, most OEM versions of Windows are crippled to prevent them
>> from being installed on anything but the correct hardware...this is
>> likely the situation you're facing.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
>

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/23/2008
From: "Jane C" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Hello John,

The hardware on your physical computer is not what is at issue here, but the
"hardware" of the Virtual Machine. A virtual machine has its own predefined
hardware configuration (even though it's only made out of software), with
its own BIOS, graphics chip etc. It bears no relation whatsoever to your
physical pc. Your OEM XP will not run on it. Period.
--
Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/23/2008
From: "John" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Thank you for a very concise overview of my problem. You are definitely not
plain and I think your brain cells are not on vacation.

Just John

"Jane C" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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>
> "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Thanks for the reply. The hardware is the hardware for that OEM XP set...
>> the T60 comes with either XP or Vista. Since I have a license for both
>> Vista and XP, there should not be a license problem. I guess even though
>> the VPC is running on the correct hardware, the OEM XP may see the
>> hardware 'through' the VPC differently.
>>
>
>
> Hello John,
>
> The hardware on your physical computer is not what is at issue here, but
> the "hardware" of the Virtual Machine. A virtual machine has its own
> predefined hardware configuration (even though it's only made out of
> software), with its own BIOS, graphics chip etc. It bears no relation
> whatsoever to your physical pc. Your OEM XP will not run on it. Period.
> --
> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
> MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/26/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

That is not true. The CDRom is the host's CDrom. The Floppy drive is the
host's floppy drive.

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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:49:06 -0400, "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the reply. The hardware is the hardware for that OEM XP set...
>>the T60 comes with either XP or Vista. Since I have a license for both
>>Vista
>>and XP, there should not be a license problem. I guess even though the VPC
>>is running on the correct hardware, the OEM XP may see the hardware
>>'through' the VPC differently.
>
> The hardware in a VM is completely different than the host's hardware.
> The only thing that remains the same in the VM is the CPU, everything
> else will be different from the host.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/26/2008
From: "David B." <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

To a point, even if the host has a DVD reader or writer in it, all that gets
emulated is a CDRom.

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"Melelina" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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>
> "Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:49:06 -0400, "John" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the reply. The hardware is the hardware for that OEM XP set...
>>>the T60 comes with either XP or Vista. Since I have a license for both
>>>Vista
>>>and XP, there should not be a license problem. I guess even though the
>>>VPC
>>>is running on the correct hardware, the OEM XP may see the hardware
>>>'through' the VPC differently.
>>
>> The hardware in a VM is completely different than the host's hardware.
>> The only thing that remains the same in the VM is the CPU, everything
>> else will be different from the host.
>
> That is not true. The CDRom is the host's CDrom. The Floppy drive is the
> host's floppy drive.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
>

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/26/2008
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:49:41 -0400, Robert Comer
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

If we want to get really pedantic, then my statement still stands.
You always get a floppy drive in a VM, regardless if the host has one
or not.
You always get a DVD-ROM in a VM, regardless of what's on the host,
none, CD, CDRW, DVDRW, etc.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

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>Not quite true, it can read DVD's...

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/26/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Not quite true, it can read DVD's...

--
Bob Comer

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:32:39 -0400, "David B." <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

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>To a point, even if the host has a DVD reader or writer in it, all that gets
>emulated is a CDRom.

Re: OEM XP Install Problems

Sent: 09/26/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>If we want to get really pedantic, then my statement still stands.

I'll agree with that. <g>

--
Bob Comer

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:32:49 -0700, "Steve Jain [MVP]"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>You always get a floppy drive in a VM, regardless if the host has one
>or not.
>You always get a DVD-ROM in a VM, regardless of what's on the host,
>none, CD, CDRW, DVDRW, etc.
>On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:49:41 -0400, Robert Comer
><(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>Not quite true, it can read DVD's...
>
>If we want to get really pedantic, then my statement still stands.
>You always get a floppy drive in a VM, regardless if the host has one
>or not.
>You always get a DVD-ROM in a VM, regardless of what's on the host,
>none, CD, CDRW, DVDRW, etc.

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