> Unfortunately you would be wrong. The wording is odd, I agree, but
> the kicker here is that the licensed device is the machine, and that
> means the VM, so if you installed it on the host and a VM, that would
> be 2 licensed devices, not one.
>

>As I understand the license agreement (retail purchase) it allows me to use
>ONE copy of VISTA Ultimate within a VPC on the same host. Is that correct,
>and if so can I activate it in the normal way??
>
>Sorry if this is covered in the 100s of threads on licensing...

>In article <(email address - cut out)>, bobcomer-
>(email address - cut out) says...
>> >Is that correct,
>>
>> If you have it installed anywhere else (like on the host), no, that's
>> not correct, it allows one install, period.
>>
>>
>Strange, why does my c:\Windows\System32\license.rtf read (under the
>heading WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE):
>"4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may use the software
>installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise
>emulated) hardware system on the licensed device."

>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> That just says you can use it in a VM if you wish, it doesn't grant
>> you a license to run second instance. If it's on the host, that's the
>> one install -- if it's on the guest only, that's the one install. (The
>> licensed device in the case of a VM is the VM itself, not the host.)
>>
>
>I would dispute that. If the OP's wording is actually correct then IMHO the
>licence does say that the OS that is installed on the licensed device may be
>installed on a Virtual Machine running on that licensed device...

> That just says you can use it in a VM if you wish, it doesn't grant
> you a license to run second instance. If it's on the host, that's the
> one install -- if it's on the guest only, that's the one install. (The
> licensed device in the case of a VM is the VM itself, not the host.)
>

> >Is that correct,
>
> If you have it installed anywhere else (like on the host), no, that's
> not correct, it allows one install, period.
>
>

> As I understand the license agreement (retail purchase) it allows me to
> use
> ONE copy of VISTA Ultimate within a VPC on the same host. Is that
> correct,
> and if so can I activate it in the normal way??
>
> Sorry if this is covered in the 100s of threads on licensing...

>My interpretation:
>
>From the license.rtf
>
>Please see #6
>
>
>
>MICROSOFT WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SERVICE PACK 1
>ADDITIONAL LICENSE TERMS. The following additional license terms apply to
>Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate.
>1. STORAGE. You may store one copy of the software on a storage device,
>such as a network server. You may use that copy to install the software on
>any other device to which a license has been assigned.
>
>2. NETWORK USE. Instead of installing the software on the licensed device,
>you may install one copy on a storage device, such as a network server. You
>may use that copy only to run the software on your licensed device over an
>internal network.
>
>3. DEVICE CONNECTIONS. You may allow up to 10 other devices to connect to
>the software installed on the licensed device to use File Services, Print
>Services, Internet Information Services and Internet Connection Sharing and
>Telephony Services. However, you may not exceed a total of 10 connections
>at one time.
>
>4. REMOTE ACCESS TECHNOLOGIES. You may access and use the software
>installed on the licensed device remotely from another device using remote
>access technologies as follows.
> • Remote Desktop. The single primary user of the licensed device may
>access a session from any other device using Remote Desktop or similar
>technologies. A “session” means the experience of interacting with the
>software, directly or indirectly, through any combination of input, output
>and display peripherals. Other users may access a session from any device
>using these technologies, if the remote device is separately licensed to run
>the software.
> • Other Access Technologies. You may use Remote Assistance or similar
>technologies to share an active session.
>
>5. OTHER REMOTE USES. You may allow any number of devices to access the
>software installed on the licensed device for purposes other than those
>described in the Device Connections and Remote Access Technologies sections
>above, such as to synchronize data between devices.
>
>6. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may use the software installed
>on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware
>system on the licensed device. If you do so, you may not play or access
>content or use applications protected by any Microsoft digital, information
>or enterprise rights management technology or other Microsoft rights
>management services or use BitLocker. We advise against playing or
>accessing content or using applications protected by other digital,
>information or enterprise rights management technology or other rights
>management services or using full volume disk drive encryption.
>
>I Omitted the rest!
>
>
>NOW! Seeing as how M/S has *not* said anywhere, in this section, "one
>license - one install", #6 above gives you explicit approval to install the
>O/S in a virtual device ON the licensed device (with certain usage
>limitations concerning digital rights management).

>
> 6. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may use the software
> installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated)
> hardware system on the licensed device. If you do so, you may not play or
> access content or use applications protected by any Microsoft digital,
> information or enterprise rights management technology or other Microsoft
> rights management services or use BitLocker. We advise against playing or
> accessing content or using applications protected by other digital,
> information or enterprise rights management technology or other rights
> management services or using full volume disk drive encryption.
>
> I Omitted the rest!
>
>
> NOW! Seeing as how M/S has *not* said anywhere, in this section, "one
> license - one install", #6 above gives you explicit approval to install
> the O/S in a virtual device ON the licensed device (with certain usage
> limitations concerning digital rights management).
>

> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> That just says you can use it in a VM if you wish, it doesn't grant
>> you a license to run second instance. If it's on the host, that's the
>> one install -- if it's on the guest only, that's the one install. (The
>> licensed device in the case of a VM is the VM itself, not the host.)
>>
>
> I would dispute that. If the OP's wording is actually correct then IMHO
> the licence does say that the OS that is installed on the licensed device
> may be installed on a Virtual Machine running on that licensed device...

>
>"Gordon" <(email address - cut out)lid> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> That just says you can use it in a VM if you wish, it doesn't grant
>>> you a license to run second instance. If it's on the host, that's the
>>> one install -- if it's on the guest only, that's the one install. (The
>>> licensed device in the case of a VM is the VM itself, not the host.)
>>>
>>
>> I would dispute that. If the OP's wording is actually correct then IMHO
>> the licence does say that the OS that is installed on the licensed device
>> may be installed on a Virtual Machine running on that licensed device...
>
>You are correct. If it is Vista Ultimate ....no other version....you have
>the right use it on the host and on ONE virtual machine (it could be VMWare
>or others not just VirtualPC) on the host that is running Vista Ultimate. I
>have participated in a lot of debates about this in various Microsoft help
>forums around the internet and this is the consensus. It is this one clause
>that is the reason for many Vista Ultimate sales. There would be much less
>reason to buy Vista Ultimate without this clause because the clause is ONLY
>in Vista Ultimate. I would buy Vista Home or Business if this clause was not
>in Vista Ultimate. It is the reason most buy it.
>

> As I said before, that is not correct, but you should check with
> Microsoft licensing for the real answer rather than debates on the
> internet....
>

>few enthusiasts using their licenses in a VM than about preventing wholesale
>piracy, they did not take the trouble to write the EULA more carefully. Anybody
>who looks at it can see that it is ambiguous.
>Fortunately, I have MSDN so I do not need to worry about it.
>Robert Comer wrote:
>> As I said before, that is not correct, but you should check with
>> Microsoft licensing for the real answer rather than debates on the
>> internet....
>>
>
>Robert:
>
>What I do not understand is that if Microsoft is really more concerned about a
>few enthusiasts using their licenses in a VM than about preventing wholesale
>piracy, they did not take the trouble to write the EULA more carefully. Anybody
>who looks at it can see that it is ambiguous.
>
>Fortunately, I have MSDN so I do not need to worry about it.