Sent: 08/22/2008
From: David
Message:Thanks Mark, I was hoping someone would just tell me to tick a box but it was
never going to be that easy. The virtual machines will run everything fine
except Outlook so we will use some old laptops for that.
Regards
--
Projectwon
"Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:
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> "David" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>
> > I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports
>
> That's right.
>
> > A Google search suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC
>
> VPC for Windows has never had direct USB support in the way that e.g. VPC
> for Mac or VMware does - I doubt it ever will...
>
> > but does anyone know a way around this please?
>
> There is no way that a virtual guest can access a host's USB ports directly,
> other than through standard network sharing.
>
> There are reports of people who use software which maps a physical USB port
> to a virtual serial port on the host and then point the VM at that, but I've
> never tried it...
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
>
>
Sent: 08/22/2008
From: LeeTutor <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
There is no way around this; it is currently a design limitation, that
have been hoping Microsoft will correct for as long as I've been usin
Virtual PC 2007 (about a year now.) You could try another couple of fre
products that do support USB
'VMware Player, Virtual Machine, Virtual PC - VMware
(http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
'VMware Server, Virtual Server Consolidation, Free Virtualization
VMware' (http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
I haven't tried the VMware server (which is used to build the virtua
machine) on my Vista pc, but according to a friend of mine it works an
I know it does because he built me a Vista Ultimate x64 virtual machine
even though it is intended to operate on a server. But I hav
experimented around with VMplayer a good bit with various pre-buil
Linux systems that I downloaded
--
LeeTutor
Sent: 08/22/2008
From: "Ferd Burfel" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Does your "broadband dongle" show up on the Host PC as a network adapter?
If so, I would think you would simply choose that as the network adapter for
the VM to use.
Ferd
"David" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> By using Virtual PC I am trying to run Vista and Office 07 on the host and
> XP
> with Office 03 on the virtual machine for training purposes.
>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google
> search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a
> way
> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
> Projectwon
Sent: 08/22/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"David" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
That's right.
VPC for Windows has never had direct USB support in the way that e.g. VPC
for Mac or VMware does - I doubt it ever will...
There is no way that a virtual guest can access a host's USB ports directly,
other than through standard network sharing.
There are reports of people who use software which maps a physical USB port
to a virtual serial port on the host and then point the VM at that, but I've
never tried it...
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports
> A Google search suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC
> but does anyone know a way around this please?
Sent: 08/22/2008
From: "Peter Forster [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Howdie,
"David" <(email address - cut out)> schrieb/wrote:
http://www.fabulatech.com is very useful. I would recommend it!
--
Peter Forster
MVP Virtual Machine
Austria
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> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google
> search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a
> way
> around this please?
Sent: 08/22/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Bo Berglund" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
I was wondering that too...
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> except Outlook
>
> Why do you need USB to use Outlook?
Sent: 08/22/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:27:01 -0700, David
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Why do you need USB to use Outlook? Doesn't make sense at all to me.
Outlook only needs the network access to the mail server you use and
that is all. No USB is needed for that.
--
Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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>Thanks Mark, I was hoping someone would just tell me to tick a box but it was
>never going to be that easy. The virtual machines will run everything fine
>except Outlook so we will use some old laptops for that.
>
>Regards
Sent: 08/23/2008
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"David" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
If the host has an Internet connection, you can set up the guest to
share that connection using ICS on the host. (It does not really matter how
that machine connects to the network.) It is similar to using ICS for two
physical machines only simpler. You do not need to install a second NIC in
the host for the "private" network. All you need is a Microsoft Loopback
Adapter installed in the host.
Show quoted text
> By using Virtual PC I am trying to run Vista and Office 07 on the host and
> XP
> with Office 03 on the virtual machine for training purposes.
>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google
> search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a
> way
> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
> Projectwon
Sent: 08/26/2008
From: Xepol
Message:
"Bo Berglund" wrote:
Wrong question. The question is why USB support isn't available when it IS
clearly possible - VMWare proves that.
Does that even matter in the sense that VPC has pointless and groundless
limitations that cause person after person to keep asking the same question
about VPC's lack about USB support?
It really sucks when the answer to each and every question has to be "try
VMware, it works where VPC does not". And that leads to the real question...
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> Why do you need USB to use Outlook?
>Doesn't make sense at all to me.
Sent: 08/27/2008
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:36:49 -0400, David Wilkinson
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
But why do they need to be identical programs?
Both have uses, both have strengths and weaknesses.
--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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>Peter Forster [MVP] wrote:
>> Howdie,
>> "Xepol" <(email address - cut out)> schrieb:
>>> It really sucks when the answer to each and every question has to be "try
>>> VMware, it works where VPC does not". And that leads to the real
>>> question...
>>
>> ...and Virtual PC is for free. VMWare Workstation not...
>>
>> BTW: Virtual PC from Microsoft is from 2004, so it's very hard to compare a
>> complete new product (VMWare Workstation or Server) with it. The Updated
>> 2007 version of Virtual PC was only a minor change to 2007...
>
>
>Peter:
>
>Yes, but if the purpose of making VPC free is to capture the novice VM user (in
>the hope that they will stay with Microsoft for all their VM needs), then VPC
>does indeed have two big disadvantages relative to VMWare:
>
>1. Lack of USB support. Many Vista users might use XP in a virtual machine to
>access peripherals (e.g. printers) that have no Vista driver, but lack of USB
>support precludes this.
>
>2. Lack of decent Linux support. VMWare has loads of free "virtual appliances"
>based on Linux, and these just do not exist for VPC (AFAIK).
Sent: 08/27/2008
From: David Wilkinson <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Peter Forster [MVP] wrote:
Peter:
Yes, but if the purpose of making VPC free is to capture the novice VM user (in
the hope that they will stay with Microsoft for all their VM needs), then VPC
does indeed have two big disadvantages relative to VMWare:
1. Lack of USB support. Many Vista users might use XP in a virtual machine to
access peripherals (e.g. printers) that have no Vista driver, but lack of USB
support precludes this.
2. Lack of decent Linux support. VMWare has loads of free "virtual appliances"
based on Linux, and these just do not exist for VPC (AFAIK).
--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP
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> Howdie,
> "Xepol" <(email address - cut out)> schrieb:
>> It really sucks when the answer to each and every question has to be "try
>> VMware, it works where VPC does not". And that leads to the real
>> question...
>
> ...and Virtual PC is for free. VMWare Workstation not...
>
> BTW: Virtual PC from Microsoft is from 2004, so it's very hard to compare a
> complete new product (VMWare Workstation or Server) with it. The Updated
> 2007 version of Virtual PC was only a minor change to 2007...
Sent: 08/27/2008
From: "Peter Forster [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Howdie,
"Xepol" <(email address - cut out)> schrieb:
....and Virtual PC is for free. VMWare Workstation not...
BTW: Virtual PC from Microsoft is from 2004, so it's very hard to compare a
complete new product (VMWare Workstation or Server) with it. The Updated
2007 version of Virtual PC was only a minor change to 2007...
--
Peter Forster
MVP Virtual Machine
Austria
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> It really sucks when the answer to each and every question has to be "try
> VMware, it works where VPC does not". And that leads to the real
> question...
Sent: 08/28/2008
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Indeed. If you don't like the product, don't use it.
When you buy a car, you buy the one which best suit your purposes. You
can't swap features between makes and models. If you want a sports car and a
truck you need two vehicles.
Show quoted text
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:36:49 -0400, David Wilkinson
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>Peter Forster [MVP] wrote:
>>> Howdie,
>>> "Xepol" <(email address - cut out)> schrieb:
>>>> It really sucks when the answer to each and every question has to be
>>>> "try
>>>> VMware, it works where VPC does not". And that leads to the real
>>>> question...
>>>
>>> ...and Virtual PC is for free. VMWare Workstation not...
>>>
>>> BTW: Virtual PC from Microsoft is from 2004, so it's very hard to
>>> compare a
>>> complete new product (VMWare Workstation or Server) with it. The Updated
>>> 2007 version of Virtual PC was only a minor change to 2007...
>>
>>
>>Peter:
>>
>>Yes, but if the purpose of making VPC free is to capture the novice VM
>>user (in
>>the hope that they will stay with Microsoft for all their VM needs), then
>>VPC
>>does indeed have two big disadvantages relative to VMWare:
>>
>>1. Lack of USB support. Many Vista users might use XP in a virtual machine
>>to
>>access peripherals (e.g. printers) that have no Vista driver, but lack of
>>USB
>>support precludes this.
>>
>>2. Lack of decent Linux support. VMWare has loads of free "virtual
>>appliances"
>>based on Linux, and these just do not exist for VPC (AFAIK).
>
> But why do they need to be identical programs?
>
> Both have uses, both have strengths and weaknesses.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
Sent: 08/29/2008
From: ChEBass <(email address - cut out)>
Message:
VMWare Workstation 6 passes USB ports just fine on my Vista x64 host.
--
ChEBass
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> with Office 03 on the virtual machine for training purposes.
>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google search
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> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
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>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
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>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
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>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
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>
> Thank you
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> with Office 03 on the virtual machine for training purposes.
>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google search
> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
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>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
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> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
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>
> Thank you
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>
> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't get
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> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
> around this please?
>
> Thank you
> --
> Projectwon
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> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a way
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>
> Thank you
> --
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From: "Richard Urban" <(email address - cut out)>
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>> By using Virtual PC I am trying to run Vista and Office 07 on the host
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>>
>> I cannot get the virtual machine to see the USB ports meaning we can't
>> get
>> online using our broadband dongles (needed for Outlook etc). A Google
>> search
>> suggests that this is an ommision from Virtual PC but does anyone know a
>> way
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>> Thank you
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